Monday, June 29, 2009

The other Kind of Eugenics.

When people hate your kind, they often want to control your reproductive issue. We have found this to be true, of poor, immigrants, Jews, Hispanics, African Americans, Native Americans ---Homosexuals, and if I had more coffee, no doubt I could create quite a list.

I won't lie and tell you I am above making the joke about who should be having babies. That bumper sticker---"Stupid People Shouldn't Breed!" is one of my favorites. I am mostly joking.

What got me on this subject was a story from Cnn about the Gay Baby Boom.

First of all, I hate the use of the made up word, "Gayby." That is fucked up. You cannot bemoan the fact that people are stigmatizing Gay Couples who want to have and raise children, or the children who are raised by Gay couples, and then call them "Gaybies."

Its unbelievably tacky. On behalf of all those School Children out there who are from Gay Household, I would like to thank CNN for the mass publication of the *word "Gayby" so that they could find that scrawled on bathroom walls next to their phone numbers and e-mails. Or have it yelled at them from moving vehicles as they walk home from school.

Anyhow back to the point.

There are Americans who hate Gay People so much, who fear their Gay-Contamination, that they will deny homosexual couples and individuals, the right to have children, or to even maintain ties with children already produced in past heterosexual marriages or relationships, and most especially the right to adopt children or interact with children on any level. All that is missing is a can of anti-Gay Spray. The Catholic Church set a shining example by scapegoating Homosexuals for their internal problem with Priest-Pedophiles.

But what these Homophobes do not understand is that they are promoting two very disturbing things:

Eugenics--As in who is allowed to breed based on the perception of inborn qualities.

Eugenics is "the study of, or belief in, the possibility of improving the qualities of the human species or a human population by such means as discouraging reproduction by persons having genetic defects or presumed to have inheritable undesirable traits (negative eugenics) or encouraging reproduction by persons presumed to have inheritable desirable traits (positive eugenics)."[2]


Many Gay people, and their straight supporters and sympathizers understand that yes, being gay is innate. It's not strictly a learned behavior or a choice.

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Cultural Genocide---meaning that those "Gays" who slip through the cracks and make a baby anyway, or adopt children, should be prevented from raising their children, for fear that they might indoctrinate their children into Homosexuality, and normalize homosexual cultural values.

Article 2 of this convention defines genocide as "any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: killing members of the group; causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life, calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; [and] forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."[1]


It's those last two statements: Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; [and] forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

The only way to stop the spread of the "Gay Illness" is to stop Gays from having or adopting children and to remove children from Gay Households.

I doubt that Homophobes think of it that way. But Gays do. Or at least educated homosexuals do. Think of the source of the Pink Triangle. Homosexuals reclaimed the Pink Triangle from it's Nazi past. You see when Nazi's weren't forcing Jewish folk to sew yellow Stars on their clothing, they were making homosexuals sew pink triangles on their clothing.

Every generation of homophobes really believe that they are onto something new. But really it's just an old, old practice. Gay Bashing, taking their children away, firing them from jobs, vandalizing their homes, and private property---old hat for homosexuals.

As for why the children of Gay households, Gay Couples, might feel ashamed? Is it because their Parents are Gay? Or is it because of how their peers and others in society at large treat Gay People, and treat the children of Gay People?

Every child is embarassed by their parents at some point. That is a normal part of growing up. Its part of the process by which a child rebels and defines their individuality.

But when dealing with the stigma of Gay parents, that normal process is magnified. Lots of children have mixed feelings about their interacial parents, about their family's poverty or immigrant status, or their parent's extreme conservative or liberal values. There are lots of ways that children can feel stigmatized by their parent's identity. Gay is simply one of many possibilities in that respect.

Children are not stupid. They see on television how we portray Gay People. They see the news, they see the Mathew Sheppards of the world, and they know on some level, they should be careful with their parent's identity because hatred is involved.

So lets call this spade, a spade.

What Conservatives really want is for Homosexuals to stop being visible, and for them to be disallowed the right to reproduce or to raise their own children. They want Homosexuals to die out. It's pretty simple. They want Homosexuals to die.

8 comments:

Dr. Jay SW said...

Right at this moment I'm dogsitting in the home of a lesbian couple and their son--who, I might mention, is about as nice, mature, and (extremely) intelligent an adolescent as I'm likely to ever meet...and the dog's nice, too.

Have to say little horrifies me more than people like my cousins who have as many kids as possible (currently twelve) and then homeschool them to make sure they don't learn about any alternatives to their particularly narrow form of fundamentalism until they're fully indoctrinated. And they, I'm sure, would like to stop gay people from having children at all...

Seeing Eye Chick said...

It happens. There is belief, or Preference, and then there is acting on that belief or preference.

One hopes that people learn that they dont have to like everyone or everything, but that being said, you don't have to act on your dislike and create hate or perpetuate it.

Cosa Nostradamus said...

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I'd like to offer those home-skewlers each a loaded pistol if they all agree to get sterilized.

What scares me is that most smart people have 0, 1, or 2 kids, maybe three, while many stupid people have 4, 6, 8. The universe is expanding but the general IQ is shrinking.
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Seeing Eye Chick said...

Cosa, I am a "home-Skewler" you nitwit. People homeschool for lots of different reasons. Not all of us do it to indoctrinate their children into idiocy. In fact, quite the opposite. Our Public School system needs serious help. I am not willing to sacrifice my children's sense of self and curiosity just to uphold an ailing, damaged and deranged system.

Dr. Zaius said...

As crazy as Shockley was, he did have one small point that is kind of scary: Survival of the fittest is no longer part of human equation, so evolution has come to a halt for humans.

That said, the root causes of homosexuality are still elusive, but I seriously doubt if mankind can genetically engineer away homosexuality as a trait. It's appearance in the population is to widespread and difficult to track.

I think that what conservatives really want is a visible enemy that they can exploit for political gain, like gays and illegal immigrants. The game they are presently playing is very much like the old American classic, "race baiting".

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Seeing Eye Chick said...

Dr Zaius,

I believe that homosexuals are perfectly natural. That in the greater scheme of things, in human and animal culture, homosexuals perform valuable functions as mostly non-reproducing members. You figure {last I heard} Homosexuals make up roughly between 1 and 2 percent of a given population. And that when that population grows, that numerical value within that statistic grows as well. I believe this is one of several ways that Nature tries to slow a population explosion. And that Homosexuals can be valuable in adopting orphaned young.

I find it unfortunate that people respond so negatively to them as people. I have found nothing offensive in general about Homosexuals. They are simply people like everyone else.

Dr. Zaius said...

I have no doubt that homosexuality is as natural as any other deviation from the norm, such as genius or exceptional insight. It seems to happen in all higher species.

I doubt that homosexuality or genius or exceptional insight actually perform a "function," as evolution is really like a Dawkins' "Blind Watchmaker". Changes take place due to the mutable nature of both DNA and environment. Although we are all giant hulking robots bent on doing our DNA's bidding, nature really doesn't seem to plan anything that far in advance. We are all like very complex mousetraps that go off in very intricate ways.

That said, mankind sees fit to punish homosexuality or genius or exceptional insight on a regular basis, and instead rewards stupidity and misguided loyalty.

I think that the argument that homosexuals are born homosexuals and that the issue is genetic is foolish, not because it seems to be untrue (there is strong evidence that this is at least partially or largely true), but because it just seems to be a stupid argument that does not serve the larger issue, i.e. homosexuals are just people like everybody else.

I think that everybody has homosexual tendencies to a degree, and the "nature vs. nurture" argument is ridiculously simplistic. The fact is that some people are gay, and that is all there is to it.

From a political or argumentative standpoint, it just seems to be a circular red herring. Both sides will regurgitate all manner of foolishness to prove their side, when in fact it is not really the issue.

Root causes of homosexuality may very well be a very complex intertwining of the two concepts, as early studies seem to indicate. There could also be other causes that nobody knows about yet.

It doesn't really matter though. Quantifying the issue does not change the bottom line. Homosexuals are as valid a member of our society as any other member, and hatred for homosexuality is merely a cultural hangover from Christian and Jewish beliefs. (Remember, the bible condones slavery, hates homosexuals.)

Evolution clearly does not play a major part in the process, as the homosexual segment of the population crops up every generation. It is merely an event, like genius or exceptional insight.